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'''[[Wikipedia:Turkey|TURKEY]]''' is located in eastern [[:Category:Europe|Europe]].
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'''[[Wikipedia:Turkey|TURKEY]]''' is located in south eastern [[:Category:Europe|Europe]].
 
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==Profile==  
 
==Profile==  
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==Language/s==
 
==Language/s==
  
The principal language of Turkey is Turkish. Imported foreign television programmes are dubbed.  
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The principal language of Turkey is Turkish. Imported foreign television programmes were dubbed.  
  
  
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==[[BBC Records]]==
 
==[[BBC Records]]==
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[[File:TRTTV.JPG |thumb|right|100px|"Program for Children" 19.05pm – is this '''Doctor Who'''?]]
  
 
Turkey is not named in any of our main [[BBC Records]] sources.  
 
Turkey is not named in any of our main [[BBC Records]] sources.  
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In '''DWM''' issue #52 (May 1981), a reader states: "Turkey has had the '''Doctor Who''' series for many years now but apparently the show goes out over there under the banner of "comedy"".  
 
In '''DWM''' issue #52 (May 1981), a reader states: "Turkey has had the '''Doctor Who''' series for many years now but apparently the show goes out over there under the banner of "comedy"".  
  
Given the early 1981 publication date (the letter would have been written a few months earlier), and that colour broadcasts did not commence in Turkey until 1984, any episodes of '''Doctor Who''' this reader claims to have seen would have been in black and white, which rules out these being [[Tom Baker stories]].  
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Given the early 1981 publication date (the letter would have been written a few months earlier), these broadcasts would have been in the late 1970s, and possibly 1980.
  
If these were Jon Pertwee stories, there are no [[BBC Records]] supporting this. Some indistinct BBC documents indicate that sales of some early Pertwees stories were "Cancelled" in 1977/1978.  
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Colour broadcasts did not commence in Turkey until 1984, so any episodes of '''Doctor Who''' this reader claims to have seen would have been in black and white.  
  
It is possible that the reader was actually referring to the novelisations that were published in Turkey in 1975.  
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BBC sales documentation (see '''DWM''' #445) indicates that [[Spearhead from Space]], [[Doctor Who and the Silurians]] and [[The Ambassadors of Death]] were sold to Turkey by November 1977, but these sales were all subsequently "cancelled" two months later, in January 1978.  
  
'''Doctor Who''' '''did''' screen in '''1988'''; this places the sale over a year after the 1987 listing from '''The Eighties''' was compiled which is why Turkey is not recorded there.
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It's possible that the episodes referred to were therefore [[Tom Baker stories]] (after all, Tom Baker could be considered funny). But we have not been able to find any listings for the series from 1977 to 1981, which suggest the series '''did not''' screen. However, the newspapers for that period did often have a non-descript '''"Program for Children"''', which may have been '''Doctor Who'''…
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'''Doctor Who''' '''did''' later screen in '''1988'''; this places the sale over a year after the 1987 listing from '''The Eighties''' was compiled which is why Turkey is not recorded there.
  
  
 
==Novelisations (1975)==
 
==Novelisations (1975)==
 
[[File:Turkey KKK Novel.JPG|right|thumb|350px|Turkish novelisation]]
 
[[File:Turkey KKK Novel.JPG|right|thumb|350px|Turkish novelisation]]
More than ten years before the television series aired, publisher Remzi Kitabevi of Istanbul released seven of the early Hartnell, Troughton and Pertwee Target novelisations in 1975. They used the same artwork as that adorning the Target novels. These were released under the name '''"DOKTOR KIM"''':
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Publisher Remzi Kitabevi of Istanbul released seven of the early Hartnell, Troughton and Pertwee Target novelisations in 1975. They used the same artwork as that adorning the Target novels. These were released under the name '''"DOKTOR KIM"''':
  
 
* '''DOKTOR KIM VE DALEKLER''' (''The Daleks'') ([[The Daleks]])
 
* '''DOKTOR KIM VE DALEKLER''' (''The Daleks'') ([[The Daleks]])
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===[[Tom Baker stories|TOM BAKER]]===
 
===[[Tom Baker stories|TOM BAKER]]===
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'''1988'''
  
 
Four stories, 14 episodes:
 
Four stories, 14 episodes:
[[File:Turkey 3Sep88.JPG|right|thumb|200px|Dr Kim, 3 September 1988]]
 
 
[[File:Turk88Jun9.JPG|thumb|right|200px|Doktor Who changes his form…, first episode, 9 June 1988]]
 
[[File:Turk88Jun9.JPG|thumb|right|200px|Doktor Who changes his form…, first episode, 9 June 1988]]
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[[File:TurkeyEp1.JPG|thumb|right|200px|Turkish Daily News, "Episode One", 9 June 1988]]
 
[[File:Turkey 16Jun88.JPG| thumb|right|200px|"Gizli Silah" (Secret Weapon), 16 June 1988]]
 
[[File:Turkey 16Jun88.JPG| thumb|right|200px|"Gizli Silah" (Secret Weapon), 16 June 1988]]
 
[[File:Turk88Jun19.JPG| thumb|right|200px|Dr Who attempts to humanize a robot, 23 June 1988]]
 
[[File:Turk88Jun19.JPG| thumb|right|200px|Dr Who attempts to humanize a robot, 23 June 1988]]
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[[File:Turkey23Jul88.JPG| thumb|right|200px|"Santraller" experiment on people, 23 July 1988]]
 
[[File:Turkey23Jul88.JPG| thumb|right|200px|"Santraller" experiment on people, 23 July 1988]]
 
[[File:Turkey30Jul88.JPG| thumb|right|200px|... on a "satellite", 30 July 1988]]
 
[[File:Turkey30Jul88.JPG| thumb|right|200px|... on a "satellite", 30 July 1988]]
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[[File:Turkey 3Sep88.JPG|right|thumb|200px|Dr Kim, 3 September 1988]]
 
[[File:Turkey17Sep88.JPG| thumb|right|200px|Revenge of the Cybermen, 17 September 1988]]
 
[[File:Turkey17Sep88.JPG| thumb|right|200px|Revenge of the Cybermen, 17 September 1988]]
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[[File:TurkeyEp16.JPG|thumb|right|200px| Turkish Daily News, "Episode 16" – an extra episode?, 24 September 1988]]
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===[[Tom Baker stories|TOM BAKER]]===
 
===[[Tom Baker stories|TOM BAKER]]===
  
The series aired on '''TRT's''' second channel - '''Program 2'''; it commenced on Thursday, '''9 June 1988''', at 7.35pm.  
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'''1970s?'''
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If any episodes aired in the 1970s (per '''DWM'''), we have not been able to find any. Turkish newspapers have been checked for 1977 to 1981, but no direct billings for '''Doctor Who''' (or its Turkish equivalents) could be found.
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'''1988'''
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The series did air on '''TRT's''' second channel - '''Program 2''' in 1988; it commenced on Thursday, '''9 June 1988''', at 7.35pm.  
  
Four weeks later, from '''9 July''', the series shifted to Saturdays. The final episode aired on '''17 September 1988'''. The newspaper actually accounts for '''15''' listings for the series; presumably one of the episodes in June or July was pre-empted.  
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Four weeks later, from '''9 July''', the series shifted to Saturdays. The final episode aired on '''17 September 1988'''. The newspaper actually accounts for '''15''' listings for the series; presumably one of the episodes, '''30 June''' or '''9 July''' was pre-empted.  
  
 
Thirteen of the billed episodes aired at 7.35pm; two aired at the slightly earlier time of 7.30pm.  
 
Thirteen of the billed episodes aired at 7.35pm; two aired at the slightly earlier time of 7.30pm.  
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==TV listings==
 
==TV listings==
 
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TV listings have come from ''Gazete Arsiv''. (These are viewable online at [http://gazetearsivi.milliyet.com.tr/Ara.aspx?araKelime=%22dr%20who%22&isAdv=false GAZETE ARSIV] (but you have to register [it's free] to access the pages.)
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Newspapers for 1977 to 1981 have been checked, and no listings for '''Doctor Who''' or its Turkish equivalent have been found, which possibly puts lie to the claim that the series played in Turkey as a "comedy".
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The 1988 TV listings have come from ''Gazete Arsiv''. (These are viewable online at [http://gazetearsivi.milliyet.com.tr/Ara.aspx?araKelime=%22dr%20who%22&isAdv=false GAZETE ARSIV] (it's free but you have to register to access the pages.)
  
 
The listings used several different ways of billing with '''"Dr Who", "Doktor Who" or "Dr Kim"''' used as the series title. ("Dr Kim" was also the title used for the 1975 Turkish novelisations – see above.)
 
The listings used several different ways of billing with '''"Dr Who", "Doktor Who" or "Dr Kim"''' used as the series title. ("Dr Kim" was also the title used for the 1975 Turkish novelisations – see above.)
  
Some of the scanned Sunday editions also had full TV listings for the week, and these generally always contained full synopses (in Turkish) for the upcoming episodes, whereas the daily billings only sometimes had a plot description or nothing at all in the way of descriptive text.  
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Some of the Sunday editions also had full TV listings for the week, and these generally always contained full synopses (in Turkish) for the upcoming episodes, whereas the daily billings only sometimes had a plot description or nothing at all in the way of descriptive text.  
  
 
The second and fourth episode billings are for '''"Gizli Silah"''', which translates as '''"Secret Weapon"'''; although this shares the same title as the novelisation of [[Colony in Space]], this serial was definitely [[Robot]] rather than that 1971 Pertwee serial.  
 
The second and fourth episode billings are for '''"Gizli Silah"''', which translates as '''"Secret Weapon"'''; although this shares the same title as the novelisation of [[Colony in Space]], this serial was definitely [[Robot]] rather than that 1971 Pertwee serial.  
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Apart from those two instances, no other episode titles were given, however it is possible to translate the synopses to determine what the story was.  
 
Apart from those two instances, no other episode titles were given, however it is possible to translate the synopses to determine what the story was.  
  
For the 23 July episode, the synopsis contains the word '''"Santrallar"''', which translates as "power plants" (as in nuclear power plants), however this might simply be an attempt to find an equivalent for "Sontaran"!
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For the '''23 July''' episode, the synopsis contains the word '''"Santrallar"''', which translates as "power plants" (as in nuclear power plants), however this might simply be an attempt to find an equivalent for "Sontaran"!
  
 
For the final episode of the run, the synopsis contains the words '''"Saybirmenler, Voga'yi"'''. For the novelisation of [[The Moonbase]], "Cybermen" became "Sibermenler", whereas for this [[Revenge of the Cybermen]] listing they became "Saybirmenler".
 
For the final episode of the run, the synopsis contains the words '''"Saybirmenler, Voga'yi"'''. For the novelisation of [[The Moonbase]], "Cybermen" became "Sibermenler", whereas for this [[Revenge of the Cybermen]] listing they became "Saybirmenler".
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We also accessed the English language paper, ''Turkish Daily Times''. While the dates - and time slots (mostly) - match those in the ''Gazete Arsiv'', the ''Times'' did not give any story titles and merely listed the episode by number – eg '''"Dr Who," serial, episode two"''', etc. Like the ''Gazete'' the ''Times'' lists episodes on the two dates where there must have been a pre-emption ('''30 June''' or '''9 July'''), but more interestingly, it also has a billing for an episode on '''24 September 1988''', listed as '''"episode 16"'''. Since the titles of 14 episodes have established, and there is no allowance for a fourth 4-parter, this 16th listing must have been a printing error on the part of the ''Times'' rather than an indication that 16 episodes (and therefore four 4-parters) aired.
  
  
 
==Web Sites==
 
==Web Sites==
  
*[http://www.doctorwho.gen.tr/forum.php TURKISH FAN FORUM]
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*[http://www.doctorwho.gen.tr/forum.php TURKISH FAN FORUM (New Series)]
  
  

Revision as of 01:36, 7 September 2012

TURKEY is located in south eastern Europe.

Profile

Country Number (63) 1988 THIRD WAVE
Region Europe
Television commenced 31 January 1968
Colour System 15 March 1984 PAL
Population 1987 51.420 million
TV Sets 1987 5.01 million
Language/s Turkish Dubbed


Television Stations / Channels

Turkey began its television service in January 1968.

There is just one television station: Turkish Radio and Television Corporation (TRT). This station operated two channels.

Colour transmissions commenced on 15 March 1984, using the PAL colour broadcast system.


Language/s

The principal language of Turkey is Turkish. Imported foreign television programmes were dubbed.


DOCTOR WHO IN TURKEY (DOKTOR WHO / DR KIM)

Turkey is (we estimate) the 63rd country to screen Doctor Who (see Selling Doctor Who.)

Turkish Dalek movie poster


DALEK MOVIES

PETER CUSHING Movies

The second of the two Peter Cushing Dalek movies screened in Turkey under the title "Daleks Fezadan Saldiranlar 2150 Yili".


BBC Records

"Program for Children" 19.05pm – is this Doctor Who?

Turkey is not named in any of our main BBC Records sources.

In DWM issue #52 (May 1981), a reader states: "Turkey has had the Doctor Who series for many years now but apparently the show goes out over there under the banner of "comedy"".

Given the early 1981 publication date (the letter would have been written a few months earlier), these broadcasts would have been in the late 1970s, and possibly 1980.

Colour broadcasts did not commence in Turkey until 1984, so any episodes of Doctor Who this reader claims to have seen would have been in black and white.

BBC sales documentation (see DWM #445) indicates that Spearhead from Space, Doctor Who and the Silurians and The Ambassadors of Death were sold to Turkey by November 1977, but these sales were all subsequently "cancelled" two months later, in January 1978.

It's possible that the episodes referred to were therefore Tom Baker stories (after all, Tom Baker could be considered funny). But we have not been able to find any listings for the series from 1977 to 1981, which suggest the series did not screen. However, the newspapers for that period did often have a non-descript "Program for Children", which may have been Doctor Who

Doctor Who did later screen in 1988; this places the sale over a year after the 1987 listing from The Eighties was compiled which is why Turkey is not recorded there.


Novelisations (1975)

Turkish novelisation

Publisher Remzi Kitabevi of Istanbul released seven of the early Hartnell, Troughton and Pertwee Target novelisations in 1975. They used the same artwork as that adorning the Target novels. These were released under the name "DOKTOR KIM":

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Doktor Kim ve Dalek Baskini, as an example, has the following points of interest:

    • The Turkish equivalent of "EXTERMINATE!" is "ONLARI YOK EDIN!"
    • The head of UNIT gets a promotion to: General Alasteyr Lethbric-Stüvirt
    • The Doktor is a Zaman Lordlari
    • The Daleks have ape-like servants called Ogronlar


Stories bought and broadcast

TOM BAKER

1988

Four stories, 14 episodes:

Doktor Who changes his form…, first episode, 9 June 1988
Turkish Daily News, "Episode One", 9 June 1988
"Gizli Silah" (Secret Weapon), 16 June 1988
Dr Who attempts to humanize a robot, 23 June 1988
"Gizli Silah" (Secret Weapon), 30 June 1988
23 July 1988
"Santraller" experiment on people, 23 July 1988
... on a "satellite", 30 July 1988
Dr Kim, 3 September 1988
Revenge of the Cybermen, 17 September 1988
Turkish Daily News, "Episode 16" – an extra episode?, 24 September 1988
4A Robot 4 Gizli Silah Secret Weapon
4B The Sontaran Experiment 2
4C The Ark in Space 4
4D Revenge of the Cybermen 4

Turkey therefore bought the standard package of GROUP A Tom Baker stories. (Presumably Genesis of the Daleks was not part of the package due to the usual rights issues associated with the Daleks.)

The series would have been supplied as PAL colour video tapes with English soundtracks, that were later dubbed into Turkish.


Transmission

TOM BAKER

1970s?

If any episodes aired in the 1970s (per DWM), we have not been able to find any. Turkish newspapers have been checked for 1977 to 1981, but no direct billings for Doctor Who (or its Turkish equivalents) could be found.


1988

The series did air on TRT's second channel - Program 2 in 1988; it commenced on Thursday, 9 June 1988, at 7.35pm.

Four weeks later, from 9 July, the series shifted to Saturdays. The final episode aired on 17 September 1988. The newspaper actually accounts for 15 listings for the series; presumably one of the episodes, 30 June or 9 July was pre-empted.

Thirteen of the billed episodes aired at 7.35pm; two aired at the slightly earlier time of 7.30pm.

The series aired – as was usual for foreign broadcasters – in production order, as per the table above. The printed synopsis for the first story mentions a "robotu", the second featured "Santrallers", the third was set on a "satellite", and the fourth had "Saybirmenler" and "Vogans".

There is no clear record that Turkey screened Doctor Who again.


TV listings

Airdates in Turkey
← AIRDATES ...... (CLICK ICON TO GO TO TABLE SHOWING EPISODE BREAKDOWN AND AIRDATES - N/S = story title is Not Stated)

Newspapers for 1977 to 1981 have been checked, and no listings for Doctor Who or its Turkish equivalent have been found, which possibly puts lie to the claim that the series played in Turkey as a "comedy".

The 1988 TV listings have come from Gazete Arsiv. (These are viewable online at GAZETE ARSIV (it's free but you have to register to access the pages.)

The listings used several different ways of billing with "Dr Who", "Doktor Who" or "Dr Kim" used as the series title. ("Dr Kim" was also the title used for the 1975 Turkish novelisations – see above.)

Some of the Sunday editions also had full TV listings for the week, and these generally always contained full synopses (in Turkish) for the upcoming episodes, whereas the daily billings only sometimes had a plot description or nothing at all in the way of descriptive text.

The second and fourth episode billings are for "Gizli Silah", which translates as "Secret Weapon"; although this shares the same title as the novelisation of Colony in Space, this serial was definitely Robot rather than that 1971 Pertwee serial.

Apart from those two instances, no other episode titles were given, however it is possible to translate the synopses to determine what the story was.

For the 23 July episode, the synopsis contains the word "Santrallar", which translates as "power plants" (as in nuclear power plants), however this might simply be an attempt to find an equivalent for "Sontaran"!

For the final episode of the run, the synopsis contains the words "Saybirmenler, Voga'yi". For the novelisation of The Moonbase, "Cybermen" became "Sibermenler", whereas for this Revenge of the Cybermen listing they became "Saybirmenler".

We also accessed the English language paper, Turkish Daily Times. While the dates - and time slots (mostly) - match those in the Gazete Arsiv, the Times did not give any story titles and merely listed the episode by number – eg "Dr Who," serial, episode two", etc. Like the Gazete the Times lists episodes on the two dates where there must have been a pre-emption (30 June or 9 July), but more interestingly, it also has a billing for an episode on 24 September 1988, listed as "episode 16". Since the titles of 14 episodes have established, and there is no allowance for a fourth 4-parter, this 16th listing must have been a printing error on the part of the Times rather than an indication that 16 episodes (and therefore four 4-parters) aired.


Web Sites


Turkey in Doctor Who

  • The Trojan War was in Asia Minor, which is now Turkey (The Myth Makers).
  • Kemel (played by Sonny Caldinez) was a wrestler from Turkey (The Evil of the Daleks).
  • There was a T-MAT terminal in Izmir (The Seeds of Death).
  • The Doctor thought he might have been wounded at Gallipoli (The Sea Devils).
  • The Brigadier was impressed with the muscular-control of Music Hall "Turkish delight of the East", belly-dancer, Scheherezade (Planet of the Spiders).
  • The Doctor acquired a hookah pipe from a Cash N Carry in Constantinople (The Deadly Assassin).
  • The Doctor mentions Troy in The Stones of Blood.
  • The Rani visited the Trojan War during her travels (The Mark of the Rani).
  • And it was in Turkey that actor Roger Delgado (the Master) was tragically killed, on 18 June 1973.


Links