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 ==[[Peter Cushing|PETER CUSHING]] / Dalek Movies?==
-As far as we can tell, neither of the two Cushing / Dalek films was released in cinemas in Mexico, but both were dubbed for and shown on television in Latin American countries in the late 1970s / early 1980s (see [[Argentina]], [[Chile]] and [[Guatemala]]).
+As far as we can tell, neither of the two Cushing / Dalek films was released in cinemas in Mexico, but the first was dubbed for and shown on television in Central and South American countries in the late 1970s / early 1980s (see [[Argentina]], [[Chile]] and [[Guatemala]]).
-And according to these two dubbing wikis, both films had Spanish language tracks recorded in Mexico, but it's not clear for which medium this was done.
+According to these two dubbing wikis, both films had Spanish language tracks recorded in Mexico, but it's not clear when this was, nor for which medium.
 *[https://doblaje.fandom.com/es/wiki/Doctor_Misterio_y_los_Daleks Dubbing Wiki 1]
 *[https://doblaje.fandom.com/es/wiki/Doctor_Misterio_y_los_invasores_de_la_Tierra Dubbing Wiki 2]
-Peter Cushing was voiced by '''Raúl de la Fuente''' for the first film, and by '''Juan Domingo Méndez''' for the second. Since Méndez died on 2 July 1990, this indicates he did this dubbing work sometime in the 1970s or 1980s, which does tie in with the likely period for when the films were broadcast on television in that region.
+Peter Cushing was voiced by '''Raúl de la Fuente''' for the first film, and by '''Juan Domingo Méndez''' for the second. Since Méndez died on 2 July 1990, this indicates he did this dubbing work in the 1970s or 1980s. We therefore think these two dubbing sessions were for television, although recorded several years apart, since different actors are credited for Dr Who and Susan for each film.

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	==[[Peter Cushing\|PETER CUSHING]] / Dalek Movies?==		==[[Peter Cushing\|PETER CUSHING]] / Dalek Movies?==

−	As far as we can tell, neither of the two Cushing / Dalek films was released in Mexico, but ~~it's possible that~~ both were dubbed and shown on television by Latin American countries in the late 1970s / early 1980s (see [[Guatemala]]).	+	As far as we can tell, neither of the two Cushing / Dalek films was released in cinemas in Mexico, but both were dubbed for and shown on television in Latin American countries in the late 1970s / early 1980s (see [[Argentina]], [[Chile]] and [[Guatemala]]).
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		+	And according to these two dubbing wikis, both films had Spanish language tracks recorded in Mexico, but it's not clear for which medium this was done.
		+	*[https://doblaje.fandom.com/es/wiki/Doctor_Misterio_y_los_Daleks Dubbing Wiki 1]
		+	*[https://doblaje.fandom.com/es/wiki/Doctor_Misterio_y_los_invasores_de_la_Tierra Dubbing Wiki 2]
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		+	Peter Cushing was voiced by '''Raúl de la Fuente''' for the first film, and by '''Juan Domingo Méndez''' for the second. Since Méndez died on 2 July 1990, this indicates he did this dubbing work sometime in the 1970s or 1980s, which does tie in with the likely period for when the films were broadcast on television in that region.

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 ===[[Paul McGann stories|PAUL McGANN]]===
 [[File:TVM VHS Mexico.jpeg|right|thumb|350px|Mexican VHS release of the TV Movie]]
-The 1996 Paul McGann [[TV Movie]] was available as a Rental VHS circa late '''1996''' (released by MCA/Universal/CIC Video and Videovisa) in English with Spanish subtitles.
+The 1996 Paul McGann [[TV Movie]] was available as a subtitled Rental VHS circa late '''1996''' (released by MCA/Universal/CIC Video and Videovisa) in English with Spanish subtitles.
-The tagline was '''"HA REGRESADO… ¡YA ERA HORA!"''' (''HAS RETURNED … IT WAS ON TIME!'').
+The tape was titled '''"DOCTOR WHO"''', rather than '''"Doctor Misterio"'''. The cover tagline was '''"HA REGRESADO… ¡YA ERA HORA!"''' (''HAS RETURNED … IT WAS ON TIME!'').
 The subtitling was created by a studio located in Los Angeles. The TARDIS was called "El TYDREE", which stands for "Tiempo y Dimensiones Relatívos En Espacia (or Espaciales)".

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 ==[[BBC Records]]==
 Mexico is one of the 27 countries named in '''The Making of Doctor Who''' 1972 Piccolo edition.
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 ==Stories bought and broadcast==
 ===[[William Hartnell stories|WILLIAM HARTNELL]]===
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 stories, 98 episodes:
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 ===[[William Hartnell stories|WILLIAM HARTNELL]]===
 '''NOTE''': '''''IF''''' the newspaper TV listings are completely accurate, then the way '''Doctor Who''' screened in Mexico was a very confusing affair, with stories airing in a random order, with some episodes not screening at all, or being scheduled '''during''' an entirely different serial.
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 ===[[Tom Baker stories|TOM BAKER]]===
 Eleven years after the first Doctor aired in Mexico, the [[Tom Baker stories]] screened in syndication, airing on several different stations across the country.
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 ===[[Paul McGann stories|PAUL McGANN]]===
-The 1996 Paul McGann [[TV Movie]] was available on video circa late '''1996''' (released by MCA/Universal/CIC Video and Videovisa) in English with Spanish subtitles. The TARDIS was called "El TYDREE", which stands for "Tiempo y Dimensiones Relatívos En Espacia (or Espaciales)".
+The tagline was '''"HA REGRESADO… ¡YA ERA HORA!"''' (''HAS RETURNED … IT WAS ON TIME!'').
 From '''February 1999''', the film was available via the [[HBO OLE]] cable station.

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 ===[[Paul McGann stories|PAUL McGANN]]===
-The 1996 [[TV Movie]] was available via the [[HBO OLE]] cable station in '''1999'''.
+The 1996 Paul McGann [[TV Movie]] was available on video circa late '''1996''' (released by MCA/Universal/CIC Video and Videovisa) in English with Spanish subtitles. The TARDIS was called "El TYDREE", which stands for "Tiempo y Dimensiones Relatívos En Espacia (or Espaciales)".
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 *[http://webspace.webring.com/people/au/um_7134/mexiwho.html DOCTOR WHO IN MEXICO (Alternative)]
 *[http://seriespropostesetcetera.blogspot.com/2009/03/doctor-who.html DR MISTERIO]

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	Mexico was the '''25th''' country to screen '''Doctor Who'''. It was the '''second''' (after [[Venezuela]]) to screen the series in [[Spanish]] (see [[Selling Doctor Who]]).		Mexico was the '''25th''' country to screen '''Doctor Who'''. It was the '''second''' (after [[Venezuela]]) to screen the series in [[Spanish]] (see [[Selling Doctor Who]]).
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		+	==[[Peter Cushing\|PETER CUSHING]] / Dalek Movies?==
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		+	As far as we can tell, neither of the two Cushing / Dalek films was released in Mexico, but it's possible that both were dubbed and shown on television by Latin American countries in the late 1970s / early 1980s (see [[Guatemala]]).

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	Mexico was the '''25th''' country to screen '''Doctor Who'''. It was the '''second''' (after [[Venezuela]]) to screen the series in [[Spanish]] (see [[Selling Doctor Who]]).		Mexico was the '''25th''' country to screen '''Doctor Who'''. It was the '''second''' (after [[Venezuela]]) to screen the series in [[Spanish]] (see [[Selling Doctor Who]]).
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−	~~==DALEK MOVIES==~~
−	~~===[[Peter Cushing\|PETER CUSHING]] Movies===~~
−	~~[[File:Y Los Daleks.jpg\|thumb\|right\|175px\|Dr Who y los Daleks poster]]~~
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−	The first [[Peter Cushing]] Dalek movie was released under the Spanish title '''"Dr Who y los Daleks"'''; presumably this version was also released in Mexico. (NOTE: This was the title used in '''[[Spain]]''', which was presumably also the one used for the Latin American releases...)
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−	~~The second [[Peter Cushing]] movie, '''"Daleks Invasion Earth 2150AD"''' was released under the title '''"Los Marcianos Invaden la Tierra"'''~~
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 ===[[Peter Cushing|PETER CUSHING]] Movies===
 [[File:Y Los Daleks.jpg|thumb|right|175px|Dr Who y los Daleks poster]]
-[[File:Losdaleksinvadenlatierra dvd.jpg|thumb|right|175px|Daleks Invasion Earth 2150AD DVD Cover]]
 The first [[Peter Cushing]] Dalek movie was released under the Spanish title '''"Dr Who y los Daleks"'''; presumably this version was also released in Mexico. (NOTE: This was the title used in '''[[Spain]]''', which was presumably also the one used for the Latin American releases...)
 The second [[Peter Cushing]] movie, '''"Daleks Invasion Earth 2150AD"''' was released under the title '''"Los Marcianos Invaden la Tierra"'''

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 ==Videotapes / DVD==
-The 1996 Paul McGann [[TV Movie]] was available on video (released by MCA, Videovisa and CIC) in English with Spanish subtitles.  The TARDIS was called "El TYDREE", which stands for "Tiempo y Dimensiones Relatívos En Espacia (or Espaciales)".
+The 1996 Paul McGann [[TV Movie]] was available on video (released by MCA/Universal/CIC Video and Videovisa) in English with Spanish subtitles. The TARDIS was called "El TYDREE", which stands for "Tiempo y Dimensiones Relatívos En Espacia (or Espaciales)".
 The subtitling was created by a studio located in Los Angeles.

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 '''DWM'''
-A letter from Martin Bonfil Olivera of La Candelaria, Coyoaca'n [sic] in Mexico appeared in '''DWM''' #62 (March 1982). He writes: ''"I have been a fan of the Doctor since the early 70s, when the William Hartnell series were shown here. But I could see only a few episodes, because the series wasn't very successful and was taken off the air. After about 8 years, the state tv station showed the early Tom Baker episodes, from [[Robot]] to [[The Invasion of Time|Invasion of Time]]. Since then they have been periodically re-showing those episodes."''
+A letter from Martin Bonfil Olivera of La Candelaria, Coyoaca'n [sic] in Mexico City appeared in '''DWM''' #62 (March 1982). He writes: ''"I have been a fan of the Doctor since the early 70s, when the William Hartnell series were shown here. But I could see only a few episodes, because the series wasn't very successful and was taken off the air. After about 8 years, the state tv station showed the early Tom Baker episodes, from [[Robot]] to [[The Invasion of Time|Invasion of Time]]. Since then they have been periodically re-showing those episodes."''
-Assuming Olivera wrote the letter in late 1981, he is accurate with respect to his comments about the Baker repeats, the last of which aired in August 1981. Working back 8 years from 1980, this takes us to 1972, when indeed there was a run of repeats, one that was cut short mid-story, exactly as Olivera describes.
+Assuming Olivera wrote the letter in late 1981, he is accurate with respect to his comments about the Baker repeats, the last of which aired in August 1981. Working back 8 years from 1980, this takes us to 1972, when indeed there was a run of repeats on Canal 5, one that was cut short mid-story, exactly as Olivera describes.
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 stories, 98 episodes:
-[[File:Mex Dalek.JPG|thumb|right|350px|Doctor Misterio; artwork cropped from cover of The Second Doctor Who Monster Books]]
+[[File:Mex Dalek.JPG|thumb|right|350px|Doctor Misterio; Dalek and Sontaran cropped from cover artwork of The Second Doctor Who Monster Books]]
 [[File:Dr Misterio.JPG|350px|thumb|right|Doctor Misterio; artwork cropped from cover of The Doctor Who Monster Book and The Second Doctor Who Monster Book]]
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 * For the equivalent Spanish story titles, go to: [[Spanish|SPANISH]]
-Mexico therefore bought the standard package of [[Tom Baker stories]] that was packaged for the North, Central and South American markets by Time-Life Television.
+Mexico therefore bought the standard package of [[Tom Baker stories]] that was packaged for the North, Central and South American markets by Time Life Television.
 The programme was supplied as NTSC colour video tapes with [[Spanish]] soundtracks.
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 [[File:Mex ROD.JPG|thumb|right|250px|Robot of Death cropped from cover of The Second Doctor Who Monster Book]]
 [[File:Mex Baker.JPG|thumb|right|250px|Tom Baker, and cropped artwork of Azal, a Silurian and an Ice Warrior from cover of The Doctor Who Monster Book]]
-[[File:Mex Sontaran.JPG|thumb|right|250px|Sontaran artwork cropped from cover of The Second Doctor Who Monster Book]]
+[[File:Mex Sontaran.JPG|thumb|right|250px|Sontaran photo cropped from Time-Life publicity card]]
 [[File:Mex Cyber.JPG|thumb|right|250px|Revenge of the Cybermen]]
 [[File:Mex Cyberman.JPG|thumb|right|250px|Artwork Cyberman artwork cropped from The Doctor Who Monster Book]]
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 As noted below, the 2 May episode had the Authorisation Code 4919-A, which was the lowest of all the codes assigned to the episodes of "Dr Misterio", which suggests that this episode was actually a repeat of [[An Unearthly Child]] part one.
-It is possible that '''Doctor Who''' was pre-empted by an episode of '''The Jetsons''', and the papers published the correct episode title but the wrong series name.
+BUT it is also possible that '''Doctor Who''' was pre-empted by an episode of '''The Jetsons''', and the papers published the correct episode title but the wrong series name.
 From the week commencing '''15 April''', episodes no longer regularly aired on Fridays. However, in order to account for "missing" episodes, it does seem likely that episodes '''did''' occasionally air on Friday but were not billed.
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 '''REPEATS # 3'''
-A third (and final?) re-run aired on Canal 5 in 1972. These screened four days a week (with no episode on Mondays), starting on Thursday, '''6 January 1972''', at 6.30pm. For the first time, the episodes aired in correct story order. This listings for this run give the title of the first episode as '''"Una Niña Que No Es De Este Mundo"'''.
+A third (and final?) re-run aired on Mexico City's Canal 5 in 1972. It was this run that Martin Bonfil Olivera saw. These screened four days a week (with no episode on Mondays), starting on Thursday, '''6 January 1972''', at 6.30pm. For the first time, the episodes aired in correct story order. This listings for this run give the title of the first episode as '''"Una Niña Que No Es De Este Mundo"'''.
-The 34th and final episode of this run aired Friday, '''3 March 1972''', and was part two of [[The Dalek Invasion of Earth]]; as noted by Martin Bonfil Olivera in DWM, this repeat run appears to have been dropped mid-story due to poor ratings. There were certainly no further listings for the series for the rest of 1972 or in 1973.
+The 34th and final episode of this run aired Friday, '''3 March 1972''', and was part two of [[The Dalek Invasion of Earth]]; as noted by Olivera in ''DWM'', this repeat run appears to have been dropped mid-story due to poor ratings. There were certainly no further listings for the series for the rest of 1972 or in 1973.
 '''REPEATS # 4?'''
-There have been anecdotal claims that the William Hartnell serials also aired in Ensenada on the Baja California peninsula around the same time as the Canal 5 screenings, circa 1973.  The local station there was '''[[wikipedia:XHS-TV|XHS-TV]], Canal 23'''.
+According to '''Televisa SA''', the William Hartnell serials also aired in Ensenada on the Baja California peninsula around the same time as the Canal 5 screenings, circa 1973.  The local station there was '''[[wikipedia:XHS-TV|XHS-TV]], Canal 23'''.
 XHS-TV was a sister station to '''[[Wikipedia:XEWT-TV|XEWT-TV]]''' channel 12 in Tijuana, whose coverage extended across the US border and was available in [[San Diego]], [[California]]. If XEWT and XHS piggy-backed each other, that would have made those repeats the first time since 1965 that any William Hartnell stories had been available to viewers in the [[United States]] -- albeit understood only by those who spoke Spanish!
-Newspapers from Ensenada have not been located. The San Diego edition of ''TV Guide'' and the ''San Diego Union'' did include TV listings for '''XEWT''' during 1972, 1973 and 1974, however there was no sign of '''Dr Misterio''' on that channel. It should be noted that both publications tended to list only ''some'' of the daily XEWT schedules (perhaps they only included those programmes that would be of interest to American viewers?) so it's possible that '''Dr Misterio''' did air but simply wasn't included in either American publication.
+Newspapers from Ensenada have not been located. The San Diego edition of ''TV Guide'' and the ''San Diego Union'' did include TV listings for '''XEWT''' during 1972, 1973 and 1974, however there was no sign of '''Dr Misterio''' on that channel. It should be noted that both publications tended to list only ''some'' of the daily XEWT schedules (perhaps they only included those programmes that would be of interest to American viewers, or which also had English soundtracks?) so it's possible that '''Dr Misterio''' did air but simply wasn't included in either American publication.
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 '''1979-81'''
-The daily TV schedules for Canal 13 were printed exactly the same way in both papers and appear in the form of a box-out which was illustrated with a montage of images from the featured programmes.
+The daily TV schedules for Canal 13 were printed exactly the same way in both papers and appear in the form of a box-out which was illustrated with a collage of images from the featured programmes.
-The series was called '''"DR / DOCTOR MISTERIO"'''. The illustrations that accompanied the listings have been cropped from Chris Achilleos's artwork from the cover of Target's 1975 '''Doctor Who Monster Book''', or from the cover of the Time-Life Television sales brochure (see the [[United States]] page), which in turn featured Achilleos's painting from '''The Second Doctor Who Monster Book'''.
+The series was called '''"DR / DOCTOR MISTERIO"'''. The illustrations that accompanied the listings have been cropped from Chris Achilleos's artwork from the cover of Target's 1975 '''Doctor Who Monster Book''', or from the cover of the Time Life Television sales brochure (see the [[United States]] page), which in turn featured Achilleos's painting from '''The Second Doctor Who Monster Book'''.
 Listings sometimes say '''"DR MISTERIO Presenta"''' (Presents) or '''"CAPITULO"''' (Chapter) before each episode title.