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 *Henric Hirsch, the director of (most of) [[The Reign of Terror]], was Hungarian.
 *Gabor Baraker (Wang-Lo in [[Marco Polo]] and Luigi Ferrigo in [[The Crusade]]) was born in Budapest.
 *Salamander's base was in Hungary; the Eperjes-Tokaj ranges erupted ([[The Enemy of the World]]).
 *Austro-Hungarian troops were fighting in [[The War Games]].

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 ==Hungary in Doctor Who==
 *Henric Hirsch, the director of (most of) [[The Reign of Terror]], was Hungarian.
 *Salamander's base was in Hungary; the Eperjes-Tokaj ranges erupted ([[The Enemy of the World]]).
 *Austro-Hungarian troops were fighting in [[The War Games]].

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 *Salamander's base was in Hungary; the Eperjes-Tokaj ranges erupted ([[The Enemy of the World]]).
 *Austro-Hungarian troops were fighting in [[The War Games]].
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 ==[[Peter Cushing]] and the Daleks==
-It's unknown whether the Dalek movies were shown in cinemas. We searched various archived newspapers online, but could not find any mention of them in the 1960s, 70s or 80s, but they did play on Hungarian television in the early 1990s.
+It's unknown whether the Dalek movies were shown in cinemas. We searched various archived newspapers online, but could not find any mention of them in the 1960s, 70s or 80s, but they did play on Hungarian television in the late 1970s and again in the early 1990s.
-Both were shown on the first-ever European '''[[Wikipedia:HBO Europe|HBO]]''' channel, which was launched in Hungary on 28 September 1991. (The channel later became '''HBO Central Europe''' when other countries - such as [[Czech Republic]] - joined the group a few years later.)
+Both films were available to see in '''May 1979''' (the TV station is not known; it was either a local channel or one from a neighbouring country). The first was billed simply as '''"Dr Who"''' and the sequel as '''"A Dalekok Inváziója 2150"''' (''The Daleks Invade in 2150''), a slightly different title to that which it was later known - see below.
 The first film - with the basic title '''"Dr Who és a Dalekok"''' - was shown on HBO on Monday, '''29 March 1993''' at 5.30pm, and again five days later on Saturday, '''3 April 1993''' (6.30pm). The movie was repeated two more times, on Thursday, '''13 April 1993''' (at 5.30pm) and Friday '''11 June 1993''' (at 6pm).
-Also on '''11 June''' was the sequel - under the title '''"Dalekok Támadása a Föld Ellen"''' (''Daleks Attack Against the Earth'') - following at 7.25pm. The second film was shown again on its own on '''17 June 1993''' at 6pm, then again the following week on '''24 June''' at 12.05am.
+Also on '''11 June''' was the sequel billed under a title different to that used in 1979 (above) - '''"Dalekok Támadása a Föld Ellen"''' (''Daleks Attack Against the Earth'') - following at 7.25pm. The second film was shown again on its own on '''17 June 1993''' at 6pm, then again the following week on '''24 June''' at 12.05am.
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-|[[File:YugoHungary.JPG|right|thumb|350px|Yugoslavian TV was available in Hungary (Doctor Who was on in 1986)]]|[[File:TRLHungary.JPG|right|thumb|250px|German station RTL-Plus was available in Hungary (generic listing from RTV in 1993)]]|[[File:VOXHungary.JPG|right|thumb|150px|German station Vox was available in Hungary (generic listing from RTV in 1995)]]
+|[[File:YugoHungary.JPG|right|thumb|350px|Yugoslavian TV was available in Hungary (Doctor Who was on in 1986)]]|[[File:TRLHungary.JPG|right|thumb|250px|German station RTL-Plus was available in Hungary (generic listing from RTV in 1993)]]|[[File:VOXHungary.JPG|right|thumb|350px|German station Vox was available in Hungary (generic listing from RTV in 1995)]]
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 ==[[Peter Cushing]] and the Daleks==
-The two Dalek movies didn't play in cinemas (or at least no newspaper listings for them in the 1960s and 1970s could be found…) but they did play on television in the early 1990s.
+It's unknown whether the Dalek movies were shown in cinemas. We searched various archived newspapers online, but could not find any mention of them in the 1960s, 70s or 80s, but they did play on Hungarian television in the early 1990s.
-Both were shown on the first ever European '''[[Wikipedia:HBO Europe|HBO]]''' channel, which was launched in Hungary on 28 September 1991. (The channel later became '''HBO Central Europe''' when other countries - such as [[Czech Republic]] - joined the group.)
+Both were shown on the first-ever European '''[[Wikipedia:HBO Europe|HBO]]''' channel, which was launched in Hungary on 28 September 1991. (The channel later became '''HBO Central Europe''' when other countries - such as [[Czech Republic]] - joined the group a few years later.)
-In its early days, HBO Hungary broadcast foreign films using a voiceover "narration" rather than being fully dubbed. It's not clear if this was still the case by the time the Cushing films were shown - however, since the Hungarian Dubbing Wiki (see below) has no listings for either Cushing movie, there is a strong likelihood the two films were shown in English with added "narration".
+The first film - with the basic title '''"Dr Who és a Dalekok"''' - was shown on HBO on Monday, '''29 March 1993''' at 5.30pm, and again five days later on Saturday, '''3 April 1993''' (6.30pm). The movie was repeated two more times, on Thursday, '''13 April 1993''' (at 5.30pm) and Friday '''11 June 1993''' (at 6pm).
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-The first film - with the basic title '''"Dr Who és a Dalekok"''' - was shown on HBO on Monday, '''29 March 1993''' at 5.30pm, and again five days later on Saturday, '''3 April 1993''' (6.30pm). The movie was repeated two more times, on Thursday, '''13 April 1993''' (at 5.30pm) and Friday '''11 June 1993''' (at 6pm).
+So it's not clear which 'translation' method was used for the films. Neither is listed in the Hungarian Dubbing site (see link in the Video section below), which does suggest they weren't dubbed. (It's highly doubtful HBO would have funded new dubs themselves.)
-The '''11 June''' screening was followed by the sequel - under the title '''"Dalekok Támadása a Föld Ellen"''' (''Daleks Attack Against the Earth'') - at 7.25pm. The second film was shown again on '''17 June 1993''' at 6pm, then again the following week on '''24 June''' at 12.05am.
+If HBO acquired pre-dubbed prints, we could find no evidence of the films having been shown in cinemas in the 60s or 70s, or on TV prior to 1993.
 Both films were shown again by HBO the following year: '''"Dalekok Támadása…"''' on '''19 February 1994''', at 6.30pm, and '''"Dr Who és a Dalekok"''' on '''12 March 1994''' (6.30pm).
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 The 1996 [[TV Movie]] was released on rental VHS by MCA/Universal/CIC Video and [https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/UIP-Dunafilm  UIP / Dunafilm] in '''1997''': the cover tagline reads '''MEGÉRI A VILÁG A XXI SZÁZADOT?''' (''Will the World Survive into the 21st Century?'').
-The dubbed soundtrack was recorded at Videovox Studio Ltd; both Sylvester McCoy and Paul McGann were voiced by '''Péter Haás Vander'''.
+The dubbed soundtrack was recorded at Videovox Studio Ltd; both Sylvester McCoy and Paul McGann were voiced by '''Péter Haás Vander'''. All the other voice-artists are named in the Hungarian Dubbing site:
 *[http://iszdb.hu/?audio=8862 TV Movie dubbing artists]

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 '''Doctor Who''' has not been shown on terrestrial television in '''[[wikipedia:Hungary|HUNGARY]]''', but signals from [[Yugoslavia]] could be received when it was seen there in '''1986''', and the [[Germany|German]] stations '''RTL-Plus''' and '''VOX''' were also available - listings for these stations were published in the Hungarian magazine ''Radio es Televizioijjsag (RTV)''.
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 The two Dalek movies didn't play in cinemas (or at least no newspaper listings for them in the 1960s and 1970s could be found…) but they did play on television in the early 1990s.
-Both were shown on [[Wikipedia:HBO Europe|HBO Europe]], which was launched in Hungary on 28 September 1991. Since Hungarian TV stations only screen dubbed programmes and movies, although the Hungarian Dubbing Wiki (see below) has no listings for either Cushing movie, there is a strong likelihood the two films had new soundtracks.
+Both were shown on [[Wikipedia:HBO Europe|HBO Europe]], which was launched in Hungary on 28 September 1991 (later becoming HBO Central Europe when it was also launched in the [[Czech Republic]]).
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 The '''11 June''' screening was followed by the sequel - under the title '''"Dalekok Támadása a Föld Ellen"''' (''Daleks Attack Against the Earth'') - at 7.25pm. The second film was shown again on '''17 June 1993''' at 6pm, then again the following week on '''24 June''' at 12.05am.
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-'''Doctor Who''' has not been shown on terrestrial television in '''[[wikipedia:Hungary|HUNGARY]]''', but signals from [[Yugoslavia]] may have been received when it was seen there in '''1986'''.
+'''Doctor Who''' has not been shown on terrestrial television in '''[[wikipedia:Hungary|HUNGARY]]''', but signals from [[Yugoslavia]] could be received when it was seen there in '''1986''', and the [[Germany|German]] stations '''RTL-Plus''' and '''VOX''' were also available - listings for these stations were published in the Hungarian magazine ''Radio es Televizioijjsag (RTV)''.
-'''Doctor Who''' was seen on [[BBC World Service Television Europe|BBC World Service Television]] in '''1992, 1993''' and '''1994''', and on [[BBC Prime]] from '''1995'''.
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 The [[New Series]] was shown from '''2006''', with the title '''"Ki Vagy, Doki?"''' ("Who Are You, Doctor?").
-Classic '''Doctor Who''' was also available in other forms:
+'''Doctor Who''' was also available in other forms:
-==Video==
+The two Dalek movies didn't play in cinemas (or at least no newspaper listings for them in the 1960s and 1970s could be found…) but they did play on television in the early 1990s.
-[[File:TVM VHS Hungary 3.jpg|right|thumb|250px|Hungarian VHS tape]]
-The 1996 [[TV Movie]] was released on rental VHS by MCA/Universal/CIC Video and [https://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/UIP-Dunafilm  UIP / Dunafilm] in '''1997''': the cover tagline reads '''MEGÉRI A VILÁG A XXI SZÁZADOT?''' (''Will the World Survive into the 21st Century?'').
+Both were shown on [[Wikipedia:HBO Europe|HBO Europe]], which was launched in Hungary on 28 September 1991. Since Hungarian TV stations only screen dubbed programmes and movies, although the Hungarian Dubbing Wiki (see below) has no listings for either Cushing movie, there is a strong likelihood the two films had new soundtracks.
-The dubbed soundtrack was recorded at Videovox Studio Ltd; both Sylvester McCoy and Paul McGann were voiced by '''Péter Haás Vander'''.
+{{Image table
-*[http://iszdb.hu/?audio=8862 TV Movie dubbing artists]
+|[[File:DWATDHungary1993.JPG|right|thumb|250px|Dr Who and the Daleks, on HBO Europe, 29 March 1993]]|[[File:DaleksHungary1993.JPG|right|thumb|250px|Both Daleks movies aired together on HBO Europe, 11 April 1993]]
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-==Books==
+===Books===
 In '''January 1993''', Android published a translated edition of Marc Platt's seventh Doctor '''New Adventures''' novel '''Cat's Cradle: Time's Crucible''' under the title '''Új Doctor Who Kalandok: Az Idö Fogságában''', which translates as ''New Doctor Who Adventures: Captured by Time'' / ''Captured in Time''.
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 *'''[[Shada|SHADA]]''' (in November 2013)
 *'''A HALÁL VÁROSA''' ([[City of Death]]) (November 2015)
 Translated editions of various [[New Series]] and '''Torchwood''' books were also published by Gabo.
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 ==Hungary in Doctor Who==
 *Henric Hirsch, the director of (most of) [[The Reign of Terror]], was Hungarian.
 *Salamander's base was in Hungary; the Eperjes-Tokaj ranges erupted ([[The Enemy of the World]]).
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